We are going to be in power with 30 million Cameroonians – Osih
After being voted by acclamation as flag bearer of opposition Social Democratic Front SDF party in the October presidential election, Hon. Osih Joshua Nambangi, National Chairman of the SDF, has in this exclusive and in-depth interview he granted THE SUN, outlined the party’s chances of grabbing the high office come October and pictured the system it is bringing to rescue Cameroon from current mishaps plaguing the country. He spoke to The SUN’s CEO/Managing Editor, NORBERT WASSO BINDE, in the company of Limbe Bureau Chief, SIMON N. KALLA, on March 8, in Douala.
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Mr Osih we thank you for the privilege to grant this interview. We begin by saying congratulations upon your election as SDF candidate for the October 2025 Presidential election. What is the difference between 2018 and 2025? What are your guts feeling after this endorsement by the party?
I think seven years is a very long time in the life of a country and political party. It is a very long time for Cameroonians as a whole, so a lot of things have happened. We have gone through a lot. In 2018, I was a flag bearer as a vice president of the party, today I am flag bearer as president of the party. I think we have to consider the fact that the dynamics have changed. Most voters today were not of voting age in 2018. The problems Cameroonians face today are not exactly like what we faced in 2018. I think very important as well is the fact that the political dynamics is completely different from 2018. In 2018, I was looked at as a novice. I think I come with much more experience today and we have as our opponent the CPDM flag bearer. We think it will be Mr Biya. I think Cameroonians understand that a president at the age of 100 at the end of his mandate will just simply put this country to a stop for seven more years. We have been witnessing what has been happening in this country. We have been seeing that nothing is going on because unfortunately the giant autocratic club has taken hold of this country. I think Cameroonians through the ballot will want to make this change and it is up to me today and my party to give the best possible political offer to the Cameroonian people so that that change is embodied by us.
I was just going through the statistics of 2018. Three million five hundred voters, six million registered and Mr. Biya had almost two million five hundred and you came a distant fourth with over two hundred thousand votes. Do you think with all you have enumerated it will be easy for you to close this gap? Do you think he is going to lose three million voters who voted for him in 2018 for you people? For you especially to take over!
I am happy you did your home work before coming here. Yes we are working on those figures as well and those figures are very interesting because what is of interest to us is not necessarily the two million people who voted for him but it is those who could not go and vote for various reasons. We have identified those reasons and we are tackling them. You have to understand that 2018 was particular in that we were at the apex of the crisis in the North West and South West regions. You have to understand that the SDF base is found in those two regions and so hundreds of thousands of traditional voters were not allowed to vote. This result has pushed us to work even harder in the rest of the country, that is why we did country wide organisation of the party, where I toured the country twice. I went into every nook and cranny of this country.
I need about 90,000 pooling agents in the entire country and only pooling agents can make you win an election; so tell me how many pooling agents you have, tell me where those pooling agents are and if we can compliment, then it means we have to work together and if we cannot compliment our pooling agents because you have pooling agents only where I already have them, then you are not relevant for us to work together. So that is where I am. I gave homework to this other political parties, they haven’t come back to me yet. When they will come back and tell me where their pooling agents are, we will see how we can work together. You know to win this election you need a very solid political programme and you need pooling agents. You need pooling agents and you need to be in the field. You need to mobilise. So any political party that can help us in that direction is welcomed.
How prepared is the SDF materially and financially as well as human resource wise? We know you are going to demand a lot of financing. Where are you going to get the finance and who is going to fun your campaign? Also, you need a lot of human resources are you going to rely only on the SDF when the party has bled a lot in the recent past?
The party has not bled; you should be true to yourself to understand that. People go on retirement just like in your company The SUN, new blood comes in. So it is not because some journalists left The SUN that has changed anything. New blood has come and it is the same thing for every organisation and the SDF is blessed to be a nationwide party that has a 35 years history and you don’t just wipe that because of your resignation. We have more people who will join us and you know each time you have somebody leaving, it opens up space for others who were longing to come in to be there. Very often you talk about people you know and you don’t talk about the masses you don’t know. I don’t want to believe that there has been any bleeding in the SDF. No! I think we have never had conventions as full as the last one we just had a couple of days ago and you as a journalist should be your measure to know where the party stands today and how prepared we are. You can never be hundred percent prepared but, I use The SUN to call on all those who want to volunteer, those who want to be pooling agents with us, who want to contribute financially, materially to help us get there.
That is the way you win an election. It is not a one man show. It is an association and as such we count on the good will of Cameroonians who want change, to make it happen. I tell you that we have already had lots of contributions but we are still far from where we want to be. To reiterate, those who cannot give financial contributions are welcome to volunteer on the campaign and every idea to make us win.
When do you intend to make public your campaign structure?
I will inform you at that time. It is not a secret, it is work in progress, and it is not something that you stop once you get to a certain point. The importance is not for people to know who works with you, the importance is for those who work with you to know where they stand.
Are you confident of the human resources the party has now? Or you will still need external resources?
We have great human resources internally but any human resource that comes from outside is welcomed and we will have a place of choice inside the campaign.
Honourable Chairman and candidate and Chief, the titles are many… Let me just come back to this point. You mentioned in 2018 the crisis in North West and South West. The electoral laws are still the same. Your position, you have tried to put them in their categories. Have you seen much changes after going round? In the South West and North West, the structures have not been reorganised in many places due to the crisis. I think Ndian, Manyu, Lebialem, Momo, Bui etc. We cannot say things have really evolved. We are just six months to elections. What is the magic thing that will happen? People have not gotten back to these places!
The presidential election has a single constituency which is the nation. So we do not distinguish individual places. I guess you will agree with me that we should not be concentrating on what is not working. We should be concentrating on what works…So we are not going out to beat Mr Biya with a hundred percent. We know that we will beat him if we have 80 percent, that is exceptionally good.
If we have 51 percent we will be very happy. And you know you can beat Mr Biya even with one percent in the present electoral law. Let us concentrate and work. We are not going to do any reorganisation in an electoral year, that is the decision we took and we are moving with those who are on the field. The North West and South West regions are doing a great job and so it is not only when you reorganise that a district or a region is active. When you use those that are in place and are working in very difficult situations, you get results. I want to extend a word of congratulations to all those places you just mentioned, they are doing a marvelous job in a very difficult environment. We know what we are going to do in October to make sure we have the majority vote of those places.
You said you are going to solve the crisis in a hundred days. Some say this is just grand standing. For nine years the government has not been able. What magic are you coming with to end the crisis?
That is where the media needs to do its homework. I have never said I am going to solve the crisis in one hundred days. It has never come out of my mouth nor any of the SDF documents. We said we are going to stop the violence in the North and South West regions in one hundred days because no other political party knows the North and South West better than we do. And because we have talked to all the parties. We have talked to the army, the administration and the secessionists. We know where the problem is lying and we understand that for violence to stop, the government has a very strong role to play and we in government are going to play that role within three months and that is why we are calling it a hundred days. Because we know what we have to do and we have on our programme, explicitly told the Cameroonians what we are going to start with. First of all, you cannot end the violence in the South West and North West without talking to those concerned, whether you like it or not. When you come to end the violence, you must talk. You don’t make peace with your friends, you make peace with your enemies. So you must talk to them. You can’t talk to people who are in prison, that is why we said for all those who do not have blood on their hands, we believe that their place is no longer in prison. When we come to power, we will get them out. We believe that the conditions of the leaders who are in prison in Yaounde should be reviewed so that the President will not go and be discussing with someone who is chained up. You need to talk to people on conditions. You saw what happened at the end of Apartheid in South Africa. That is the same thing that needs to happen here. You need to talk to that leadership.
You need to bring that violence to an end and that is what we promised and we said that we are going to solve the bottom of the crisis within three years because we are going to produce a constitutional and end with a referendum and we hope being in power, the Cameroonian people will say yes to a federal system which will give back the dignity of the people in the North and South West which they are crying for. So we know where we have to go to and we need to state that, inside those 100 days, we are starting that process but you cannot go on to that process while people are being killed and are fighting. So we understand that we need to talk to people and people need to bring down their arms. We need to take care of the secessionist fighters and we need to remobilise the army so that they get into the North West and South West to seek for peace instead of fighting a war that makes no sense eight years later. The Cameroon government has been unable to solve this problem for nine years. That is why the people of Cameroon are called upon to make a choice. So those who come with plans to stop it are given a chance to do it. Those in power have no clue on how to stop that violence else they would have done it.
Thank you Mr. Chairman for those clarifications. You are going to stop the violence in 100 days and for the crisis in three years you will be able to resolve it. On the referendum which is going to be proposed, will you wish the people to choose federalism?
The constitutional conference is to propose a new constitution, a new form of the state to the people of Cameroon who have to endorse it by virtue of a referendum and that is why we say we need three years to get there and for four years, the remaining term of the seven years term, we will implement the changes of that referendum.
You have gone round the country as you said earlier in building your programme for the campaigns, what is the mode in the other eight regions of the country concerning federalism?
The problem has always been those who have been representing the SDF and presenting the federal options including many within the SDF have always been presenting it as if it is a way of dividing the country. As a way of taking national resources from the country whereas it is the opposite. That is why it is very important for a popular media like yours to help us tell the Cameroonian people that, federalism makes the country stronger. When you have a country as diverse as Cameroon, these diversity needs to be organised in the form of a state where each and every part of that diversity has full opportunity to grow and to exist. And so federalism is not about the geography. Whether you are talking about two states, four, five or ten states, that is not the issue. The issue is that with a federal system, the power comes back to the people and we propose a treaty federal dispensation in which everything goes down to the councils, one hundred percent of the country is handled at the level of the council and only what the council cannot do is done at the level of what we call the regions today. You can call them states, regions, provinces, whatever you call them, that is not the base. We have been having the wrong debates for too long. It is all about money. Everything is done at the council levels. We have a system of subsidiarity in place and a system of equalisation in place. Subsidiarity means if we keep the councils at the level they are today, we cannot have 360 reference hospitals or universities. So we can decide inside the constitution that higher institutions go to the regions or however you carve them out.
So only what the regions cannot do is done at the national level where you will now have that system of subsidiarity where you will have things like the army, diplomacy, money, boundaries etc.
So in the case of education, you would say basic, secondary and vocational institutions is done at the council level and then you move one step up and say at the regional level you do higher education. At the national level they take care of the national curriculum as well as the exams are done at the national level so that the entire country is at the same level of education.
That is how it is bing organised and that is what we offer. And that is what Cameroonians need to understand, so we have a duty to make them understand and guess what, more and more Cameroonians are buying into it because they start understanding that the root cause of their underdevelopment is because every decision comes from Yaounde. And decisions should be taken at the base not at the summit. We need to bring back power to the people and that is through the federal dispensation and there you have federal equalisation system which is rooted in the constitution that nobody can change. You know what a council produces, their needs and geography, population, size, level of underdevelopment and so on which gives them a share of the national cake and that is done nationwide, council after council, region after region, so that tomorrow everything that happens in the life of a Cameroonian is being done at the level of the council and so if it doesn’t work, you can go and change your mayor in the next election after five years and bring in a new mayor who will make it work.
For that to function as well, you need to come out of the electoral system where Cameroonians do not choose their mayors, they choose the list and somebody else has to choose who the mayor is, that too has to stop.
Where has this worked?
Take every country that functions well, works that way without any exceptions. You have some exceptions within a short period. People will tell you that Libya worked the other way round. It worked well for forty years, then they walked into a civil war, deadly one and the country does not exist. So, it doesn’t work. If you look at the four biggest economies in Africa, that is how it works. Nigeria, South Africa, Egypt and Ethiopia, that is how it works. Go to America, Germany, England, etc that is how it works.
Talking more about your programme; Compulsory and free education, universal healthcare, lodging and family subsidies etc. Where will you have the money to do all these?
We never said we were going to give anybody subsidies. We are proposing a very bold programme. Right now, Cameroonians’ biggest problem is that 10.1 million Cameroonians live below the poverty line and it is very low of FCFA 800 per day.
If you bring the poverty line to FCFA 1200 per day, you will be at FCFA 13 million. So, the current government has plunged our country into deep poverty and we need to arrest that poverty as a new government and that is why we need to look for a solution that works. We went around shopping and fortunately I worked with the PT in Brazil, with President Luna, who I have met a couple of times and he brought in a very bold measure in Brazil that works exceptionally well, that is called the family scholarship. It works in a very simple way. You need to lift people out of the vicious side of poverty. To do that you need to accompany them as a state. You need to identify the bottom of our society that is the first thing and that bottom needs to be taken. How do you do that? How does a family come out of poverty? By virtue of the fact that they can send their children to school, and can get healthcare stress free. Most families fall into poverty because school is unaffordable and healthcare is out of touch. So once you identify the families, you work together with the families from family planning to whatever you can do with them. You need to bring back this family into the normal society. You oblige them to be part of that programme only when they do their own part of what they are supposed to do like sending the children to school, following their home works, making sure they have results. If not, they need to look for help. They themselves and the children visit the doctor once a year for check up and so on and so forth. Once you have a certain number of elements, you put in place that this family should follow, on the other side you down help. School is already free, you have to help me to get the necessary books, the necessary medicines and so on. So all of them have a cost. You don’t give cash but you give all the elements that make them to use their energy to produce money for themselves and their family rather than running after one problem to the other and never coming out of that cycle. That is one thing about it and some parts of their locations that are given are given in the form of vouchers that you can use and the other part is given cash so you have money for your dignity. The cash part is given to the mother in the house and not the father because when you give that money to the father it always ends somewhere else. To make sure the money ends up in the stomach of the children, you give to the mother. That is how that system works. We have made the calculation, this government squanders about one hundred to two hundred billion every year on what they call social networks and so on and what we will need for that scholarship to take off is much less and guess what, when you come out of the poverty line, you also come out of the scholarship. So the faster you get Cameroonians back to normal, the less you spend, so it is virtuous cycle. You take them out of the vicious cycle to the virtuous cycle. Once they come out, you don’t spend any longer.
Thank you very much for this detailed explanation. There are issues going on. This ENAM issue, you brought it in 2018. Scrapping of ENAM, scrapping of D.Os and SDOs. You know it touches people, it touches families. By bringing all these, doesn’t it alienate those who might have had some sympathy for you? Because you are touching on their livelihood where they have made their money!
Again I am surprised you are not doing your job. I have never touched the livelihood of any person. When we talk about all these people, they are prisoners of that system too. We never said we are removing anybody from a job. We have never said anybody will be scrapped of his diploma because he got it from ENAM. We are just simply saying ENAM was created to carry out the colonial agenda. So you need to scrap it off to cut off from that colonial agenda and guess what, today we are living in the middle of state capture or the state has been captured. The CPDM is no longer in power; it is a long time the CPDM lost power. Those in power and those who have captured the state are all from ENAM. They are civil servants, so it means that the agenda for which ENAM was put in place has been working on fine. What is the result? The result is that Cameroon has been stagnant and Cameroon is going backward because the creative minds are not in charge of the future of this country and so we need to cut that off, we need to stop it. We are not saying those who went to ENAM will no longer have their jobs. That is not what we are saying. We are simply saying we need to change the mindset and come back to the Cameroonian education, for Cameroonians to have their administrators and their judges for a better Cameroon. The entire ENAM setup is made just to perpetuate the neocolonial mindset in which we are and that is why we cannot progress and so we need to have a bold step to stop it and how do you stop it, by closing down the school. That doesn’t mean we will not have magistrate or anybody will lose his job. That simply means the way we will train our magistrates will be different. Nigeria is operating perfectly well. Do they have an ENAM? No! The USA is working perfectly well, do they have an ENAM, no.
The only place you have an ENAM is France and they closed theirs. They listened to me in 2018 and I guess Macron came and closed ENAM. So it means they have understood that it is a problem and so we should understand that it is a problem. It is not against the individuals who went to that school or those who wish to go there, it is simply the position that the school has in Cameroon’s life. It is not normal that you vote for your mayors and MPs and people who go to ENAM have bigger powers.
You people voted a new finance law which is taking all the taxes to Yaounde!
I guess you know that the CPDM has a majority in parliament.
One of the first things when you toured the country was on ID cards and you have put it in your NEC meetings, where you brought out the policy of making ID cards free and taking it to local councils. Has the situation changed? A lot of people have still not gotten ID cards to make them register!
I think the government heard us and is trying to make some changes. The problem with the ID cards is that the law says if you don’t have an ID card, you get locked up. So how can you go to a police station to tell them you don’t have an ID card and you want one? Normally the police must lock you up first, so that is the first thing. We are fundamentally for power to the people, there is no necessity for the police to be those issuing the ID cards and it has shown by perfection that they are unable to do it because they take some foreigners to do it for them. They are there to secure us. They are not there to issue our documents. That is not why they are there. Maybe in 1960 it was a valid thing because they were present all over. If you want to make an ID card, you go to the council to get your birth certificate. Then you go to the magistrate to get a certificate of nationality. He/She issues that certificate of nationality on the basis of the document the mayor gave you. Now you take those two documents to the police. The police is under the mayor and under the magistrate but they need you to go to their bosses to get documents so that they now give you an ID card. It is wrong. The ID card should be issued at the council because if you want a wrong identity, you start at the council. If the council gives you an identity, there is nobody who can stop you on the way. So why not simply do it at that one stop? The councils are closest to the Cameroonian people. We believe that it should be free of charge because that is the irony with the Cameroonian system. Once you ask people to pay to get an ID card, if they cannot pay or travel to where the ID card is being issued, they don’t have an ID card and you lack one citizen. So you cannot actually be feeding one citizen who cannot contribute to the productivity of your country. So it means you have one passenger less on your buses. You have one person less who will be paying tax etc. It is the same thing with land certificate. They make you spend millions to obtain a land certificate. But guess what, they should give you a land certificate free so that you can start paying your land tax. So you have millions of people with plots who are not paying land tax because they have no land certificate.
First thing you need to pay land tax is to have land certificate. So we in the SDF believe we need to handle this the other way round. You need to give people free land certificates, free ID cards so that you have your citizens. How can you be collecting taxes when the people do not exist?
I just want to have your take on the position of chiefs who have endorsed Mr Biya for the next election. The recent violence in Belguim. What is your take on that as the Minister of Youth Affairs was attacked. So what is your take on those two issues?
If a couple of chiefs decide to endorse Mr Biya, we are in politics. They know why they are doing it. And I can tell you one thing: As a chief, I do hope that the chiefs will vote for me because if they cannot vote for me, then they do not know what they are. The violence in Belgium is uncalled for and the SDF condemns it. We believe that things can change non-violently and we believe that measures need to be taken urgently for people to stop degrading the image of our country. If that violence exists, it is as a result of the frustration of these people. The government as well needs to address the issues that frustrate this people but I guess the best way is come October 2025 to cast this government out so the new government comes in and Cameroonians will not have any need to be violent with their Ambassadors and Ministers abroad. I guess one of the first things we will do once in power is to open up our doors so that this diaspora, those who want to come back to Cameroon will come as soon as they want and we give them conducive environment for them to invest and to start a new life here.
Does this perspective tie with what people are perceiving is the new SDF? Being more collaborative with government and CPDM? Is it a new stance of the SDF? Or do you think it is more pragmatic or this is the vision now of the new chairman?
What is new from what I just said?
People view the SDF in the past as being extreme!
The SDF has never been extremist. Never ever in 35years! We have taken to the streets, we have blocked streets, we have never been extremists. We could have beaten the PM Yang in parliament but we never touched him. We blocked him from speaking but we never touched him. That is where the SDF stands. We have never ever believed in solving Cameroon’s problem through violence. That has nothing to do with who is in power. Be it the UPC, CPDM or whoever, that is our position. We respect the integrity of the human being, so we can demonstrate, we can take to the streets but that doesn’t mean we start beating up people or wounding them. We have never been an extremist movement. In the 2007 election, we made an introspection and we decided that we cannot continue as a political party without talking to those who are in government. We cannot start talking to them without the president of that party and our party meeting. And that happened three years later and from then on, we had a lot of progress. Before that, we could talk to each other through communiqués, now we could talk to each other and move on. We went from the Menac way of election to Onel one and to Elecam one and two in a short period and that is because we are talking to each other and we believe that we can still progress in that way. Mr Biya told us he had no proofs his civil servants were embezzling, we brought proofs. How could you bring the proof of embezzlement if you are not talking to them? He finally agreed that we were right and we moved on. Lots of things have happened, we are fighting for higher minimum wage in Cameroon. We used to fight for it through the streets but now we put it on the table of government and Cameroonians today including the CDC, where workers earn at least 30 percent more than they used to earn before we started.
That is a huge achievement and so people need to see this and finally we are going to win the elections in October. We are not going to be in power alone, we are going to be in power with 30 million Cameroonians including two million who vote for CPDM will be part and parcel. We disagree to agree. We are not enemies; we are political adversaries, so we move on to build the country. When we are building this country, we need everybody, even those in extremist positions. We need everybody because we are forty three years late and we cannot do anything without all the Cameroonians on board and you cannot have everybody on board if you spend your time insulting each other. If we don’t insult the CPDM, that doesn’t mean we are close to them. We want to replace them and to show them how a country is properly managed and how Cameroonians can come back and do better and how they can come back to their dignity.
On a personal level, do you think you have been misrepresented? By some minds in the socio political sphere? Some say you are arrogant, some say you don’t open up to people, you don’t listen. I have read and reacted to some. Do you think a lot of people don’t know you?
There is mix up in a public image and a private image. The same way people will tell stories about Mr Biya and if you ask if they have ever met Mr Biya, they will say no. So you know ignorance is the biggest of all diseases. I can just say I am sorry for those who believe I am arrogant and so on, based on complete ignorance. People also believe you need to share a drink with them in every off license in Cameroon. That is just not possible. I have just one stomach, so that is just something that is materially impossible to do. But as long as I can do it, I will do. In every field of life which I have been active, I have never had the feedback of being arrogant, being far from the people, it is just the contrary. I have a lot of problems from my own inner circle telling me, I am too open and too down to base, I refuse to sit behind the car. I drive my car. The other day they had a meeting obligating me as a candidate not to drive. About six months ago when we were touring Cameroon, we took the train from Yaounde to Ngaoundere; we took a whole couch and all the beds in it for the entire team and these women came up to the window and wanted to take pictures, so another lady came and said are you not even ashamed, how can you want to be President of Cameroon and you take the train? So people need to know what they want. I spent the later part of the night with one lady explaining to her that the President of the Republic needs to know in which state of the country our trains are and needs to take the train so he can fix it because you people cut them away that they don’t understand what is going on and that is the reason why they don’t understand that one of our programmes is to stop medical evacuations with state funding because fundamentally it is not only to save money and it is a wrong thing to use tax payers money for that. If people want to get medical evacuations, they should get the necessary insurance that covers them to take them abroad. But it is also because only when our leaders will start using our hospitals that the state of our hospitals will be better. When you see the director of a hospital at the airport being evacuated, you just guess which state of the country his hospital is.
Still on a personal note; Let The SUN get this one: Are we going to see madam during the campaign? It seems it is already becoming a topic on social media!
Madam is not the candidate but she is next to me and she dropped me off here for this interview and she will come and collect me afterward. So I think you need to understand that intimacy needs to be protected. All those who know me know madam and know my children and it is not something that you need to put ahead especially in the context of Cameroon. In other contexts, it can be something that you can put ahead because the conditions are proper for that to happen but my wife goes to the market every now and then. She had to quit her job because she could no longer stand as being my wife and at the same time having a job. So she will be with me on the campaign trail. She will not speak. I do not believe in what you people call the first lady. I believe every person needs a very strong woman to be able to excel.
Is there any animosity between the SDF and MRC?
To the best of my knowledge, there is no animosity. The MRC is a far right movement, we are a center left, so we don’t have much to share. They want a centralised system, we want a federal system. We do not have a common political system. That is maybe what you call animosity but for me it is not animosity. They have the right to follow up their agenda. We have the right to follow our agenda to propose a system to the Cameroonian people. If the MRC is in power one day, we will continue opposing them because we understand that what they are proposing is not what we are proposing. We are proposing a complete different system than theirs. We are on two different political systems.
The irony is that the MRC is feeding fat on your base!
It is not feeding fat on our base, it is feeding fat on militants who do not believe in the ideology of our party. You go from left to right. It simply means you were not at your place. And so we are happy to clean up the house and have the real people with us.
What is your own personal relationship with Prof Maurice Kamto?
We have a relationship of mutual respect. We work together on various topics including the electoral code and we respect each other mutually. That is it. I cannot claim that we are friends because outside of this circle we have hardly ever met. It is difficult for an organisation to work with another organisation primarily made up of people who left your organisation. It is like asking the Catholic Church to work with the Pentecostals when they know one hundred percent of their Christians are those from the Catholic Church. But they respect each other, they are all Christians. It is the same thing with us.
What of the other opposition leaders? Cabral Libii? Ndam Njoya?
Cabral Libii, we have a very good working relationship with each other and he happens to be my neighbour in parliament, so we discuss a lot. At his beginning in parliament, he came up to me and I gave him all I could give him. We exchange a lot, we call each other as often as we can. Ndam Njoya, we have very good relationship even more so with the UDC MPs, we work a lot. The UNDP, ANDP, all these parties, we are in talking terms and we exchange and when something happens they call and so on.
Will the press be heavily embedded in your campaign trail?
I am not a media owner; you are suppose to answer that question. Our doors are open to all media. We have a digital team that is within, which will be part of the campaign trail. If you want to be part of the campaign trail, you meet Kejang Henry and they will get a seat in the bus for you.
Thank you very much. Maybe there is something we have not touched and you will like to give your last words
I will have a lot of opportunities to talk in the coming days and months . So if there is anything we didn’t touch, I will do that at that time. I just want to thank you and your readers. I am thanking you not because you granted me this interview but because we need very strong press and THE SUN is an example of a strong and independent press in Cameroon and if we have many of such news organs, I think Cameroonians will be better-of today.
Thank you very much for the compliment